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Maury at 14:20, 1 October 2019

2019-10-01T14:20:21Z

Maury: talked to David, Tarry-on is actually Atarian

2019-09-25T22:11:52Z

talked to David, Tarry-on is actually Atarian

Maury: assuming "dark issues" is really "back issues"

2019-09-25T18:39:07Z

assuming "dark issues" is really "back issues"

Maury: clarify ROM

2019-09-25T18:29:28Z

clarify ROM

Maury: a plus -> A+

2019-09-25T18:26:54Z

a plus -> A+

Maury: sp

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                      department and they started working a little embezzlement.
-   Kevin:            This was at the [inaudible 00:13:49] ?
+   Kevin:            Was this at D.E.C. or at...
    David:            Pardon?
    Betsy:            At Creative Computing.
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    David:            '78. And, so, obviously we fired these two. And then the court
-                     finally, they determined that they had also, one of them had been
+                     finally, well they determined that they had also, one of them had been
                      involved in welfare fraud and other stuff and the court ordered
                      them to pay it back at the rate of, I don't know...
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    David:            It was some tiny amount.
-   Kevin:            [inaudible 00:16:26]
+   Kevin:            Still paying you... [laughter and crosstalk]
    Betsy:            Course they'll never pay anything.
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                      That's what I was afraid of. Less than a year later he was out of
                      business. There was no way you could compete with these big guys.
-                     Ziff instantly started having these receptions at PC expos.
+                     I mean Ziff instantly started having these receptions at PC expo...
    Betsy:            They had ad reps all over the country.
-   David:            Ad reps, yeah. Oh my gosh. We would not have survived.
+   David:            Ad reps, yeah. Oh my gosh. So we would not have survived.
-   Kevin:            Again, you [inaudible 00:41:03] .
+   Kevin:            So again, you timed it right.
    David:            Yeah. Not exactly right but yes. Wasn't bad. Wasn't bad.
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                      are on the market are pretty tacky and not fun. I've devised
                      something." We worked together with him. We finally decided, "All
-                     right. We'll publish this game. By the way, he's a general and
+                     right. We'll publish this game." By the way, he's a general and
                      finally retired.
-   Betsy:            But he's not financing his retirement with [inaudible 00:54:29] .
+   Betsy:            But he's not financing his retirement with the royalties of the game.
                      [laughter]
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                      slipping and slipping and the subscribers would be calling up and
                      saying, "Where's my magazine?"
-                     This went on. It was bi-monthly. It went on for maybe six months. I
+                     This went on for.. it was bi-monthly. It went on for maybe six months. I
                      finally wrote an editorial in which I explained to the readers
                      exactly what was going on. They didn't see it until it was printed.
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    David:            That's right, it did.
-   Betsy:            They never saw it. We were producing it out of [inaudible 01:10:07]
+   Betsy:            They never saw it. We were producing it out of Mendham
                      New Jersey and printing it in eastern Pennsylvania and they never
                      saw it until it was too late. My tenure was cut short but I didn't
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    Betsy:            [laughs] I probably wouldn't have gotten fired if they had.
-   David:            That was the straw that broke the camera's back.
+   David:            That was kinda the straw that broke the camel's back.
-   Betsy:            But then John [inaudible 01:11:05] kept doing it a little bit.
+   Betsy:            But then John [inaudible 01:11:05 - Genshi? Genji?] kept doing it a little bit.
    David:            I know. In a lot of cases, particularly with the games magazine,
                      they wanted to approve everything that went in it. If you do an
-                     objective product review, you call it like it is. Oh m gosh, there
+                     objective product review, you call it like it is. Oh my gosh, there
                      was one, it wasn't just one product but a roundup after Consumer
                      Electronics' show, and I don't remember what it was. Atari had

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		+	Date: 3/4 April 2013

	Kevin: I'm interested in how you guys got together. Was it some sort of		Kevin: I'm interested in how you guys got together. Was it some sort of

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    David:            Yeah, if you can get a hold of the third one. [laughter] I don't
-                     even have that. There's a same thing on Tarry-on. There were three
+                     even have that. There's a same thing on Atarian. There were three
-                     issues of Tarry-on that I did not keep the third issue. Oh, man.
+                     issues of Atarian that I did not keep the third issue. Oh, man.
                      Shoot me.

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                      England that we could take subscriptions.
-   Betsy:            A housewife who kept her dark issues in her spare bathroom.
+   Betsy:            A housewife who kept her back issues in her spare bathroom.
                      [laughs]

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                      [laughter]
-   David:            Actually, a bigger acquisition was earlier and that was Rom
+   David:            Actually, a bigger acquisition was earlier and that was ROM
-                     Magazine. Rom was published by who?
+                     Magazine. Rom was published by who? (ED: not the Atari-related
    Betsy:            Erik Sandberg-Diment.

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                      with worms. We just had a different kind of culture, a lot of fun.
-   Betsy:            Jonny Anderson went to work for A plus in San Francisco. He was one
+   Betsy:            Jonny Anderson went to work for A+ in San Francisco. He was one
                      of the five people killed in the San Francisco earthquake of 1986.
                      He was in a car and a piece of the building fell on the car. He was

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    Betsy:            I think he was sort of in rebellion when he started working at
-                     Creator Computing because he was coming off of AT&T where he had to
+                     Creative Computing because he was coming off of AT&T where he had to
                      wear a suit to work every day. So the first thing he did was burn
                      his suits and wear t-shirt and jeans way before anybody was doing

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    David:            I said there was a lot of early development in New Jersey and there
                      was a guy named Saul Libes, you will find him probably, [laughs]
-                     who was the first president of the Armature Computer Group in New
+                     who was the first president of the Amature Computer Group in New
                      Jersey. He was a Professor at [inaudible 01:04:43] College and he
                      felt that Byte magazine started out fine but then they were