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  Wayne: Volume one of 10.
 
  Wayne: Volume one of 10.
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  Wayne: Well, anyway, that's how computers got started. Before that I did cell phones the same way. I was publishing the HAM magazine and a few HAM clubs put automatic repeaters or relays on top of mountains and tall buildings to extend the range of handy-talkies and mobiles. I said, "Wow, this is fun." I put one up on the local mountain, and it made it so that any mobile HAM anywhere in New England could talk to any other.
 
  Wayne: Well, anyway, that's how computers got started. Before that I did cell phones the same way. I was publishing the HAM magazine and a few HAM clubs put automatic repeaters or relays on top of mountains and tall buildings to extend the range of handy-talkies and mobiles. I said, "Wow, this is fun." I put one up on the local mountain, and it made it so that any mobile HAM anywhere in New England could talk to any other.
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  Wayne: I don't think there was any time. It just happens. I didn't think about that. I was just busy keeping up, keeping ahead, actually. [laughs] Then Computerworld came along. I got to know Pat McGovern, the head at Computerworld, met him at a conference and so forth. They wanted to buy my magazines and I said, "Well, I've done that. I'll move on." They bought them.
 
  Wayne: I don't think there was any time. It just happens. I didn't think about that. I was just busy keeping up, keeping ahead, actually. [laughs] Then Computerworld came along. I got to know Pat McGovern, the head at Computerworld, met him at a conference and so forth. They wanted to buy my magazines and I said, "Well, I've done that. I'll move on." They bought them.
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They didn't put anybody...I think his people got irritated at him making the decision on that. They put not very bright people at the head of each project and all the magazines died.
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They didn't put anybody... I think his people got irritated at him making the decision on that. They put not very bright people at the head of each project and all the magazines died.
    
  Kevin: How many magazines did you sell at that point? Do you know?
 
  Kevin: How many magazines did you sell at that point? Do you know?
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